Cramer of Karina cattery, specializing in chocolate and lilac Bi-Colors
When did your love for these colors begin?
During my visit at a cat show more than 10 years ago I fell totally
in love with my favorite colors of persian kitties.
Do you have a mentor, if so who?
My very good friend Janet Tyra from Tyland Cattery was and is there
for me and my (partly) stupid questions at any time I need her and
that 24 hours per day !!! And I would like to say "Thank you,
my dear Janet" on this way for all friendship and confidence
during the last 6 years!
Do you remember your very first chocolate/lilac brought into
Yes, of course. My first lilac-white male "Krümel"
arrived as a member of my family in 1992. He was already two years
of age when he came to us. His breeder lived in Starnberg, near
Munich/Germany and I had only a very very small and old car....
so he came by airplane to Hannover... and I was soooo excited when
I picked him up there. He was more than "only" an animal
- a real friend - very very sensitive: he nearly cried when I was
sometimes in a bad mood; he was a good "father" - sometimes
better than the dam itself. It was more than a good luck having
him with us.... and the very best decision to go on breeding within
Do you have a favorite color division? (bi-color, himalayan,
solid, calico, smoke, van)
Yes, I am specialized in breeding bi-colors in chocolate and lilac.
I made my decision already very early and so I have built up pedigrees
which allow also further breeders to reach bi-colors very soon.
But it is not possible to breed only with bi-colors in chocolate
and lilac - I also have carriers in blue-tabby and chocolate self....
and I am so happy to get a new chocolate male at the end of February
- his name is: CFA-Ch. QDPies Downbrown of Tyland.
Do you have any particular favorite cats in your program?
Oh - no - I really love them all and every kittie has its special
sence for my personal breeding program. And please note: I never
"kicked" my retired kitties out of the door - I always
kept the older neutered or spayed cats as long as they were on
this side of the hills.
you have any advice when distinquishing a pale blue from a lilac
Up to now I could always identify if it was blue or lilac - I
never needed to look under the paws if they are dark or light
pink - I assume that the total pedigree lines I use for breed
are already "telling" that there are arising no problems
of that kind. But I had another problem of color identification
I would like to talk about: my last litter looked like beeing
tabbies (the dam is a blue-tabby) or bi-colors in blue and lilac
(the sire is a lilac-white one). My German Club inferior was so
kind to assist me concerning the color determination as follows:
I "played" to be a hairdresser, took a part of the coat
between the first and the middle finger (just as a hairdresser
does when he wants to cut over his fingers!!). Then I had to look
for horizontal stripes (e.g. tickings) in dark or light lilac
and blue. In my case: there were only vertical stripes visible
the indivdual hair is absolutely regularly from top to buttom
- that means: no tabbies but ghostmarks. (Hope you understand
my poor English)
At what age do you determine their quality
I prefer doing that not to early because
I also consider if the teeth are correct grown and how the kitties
are developing during their first weeks of age. There is only
one exception: if the color devision does not allow a new owner
to go with these kittie to a cat show.
What is the most difficult part of working with these colors?
I think to improve the type, to reach good
clear and regular colors, the eye color should also be "super"-copper,
the bi-color devision has to be also settled.... and the total
appearance should also be nearly "perfect". As you could
see it is not so easy.
What is the most rewarding experience working with these colors?
I think the world-wide acceptance from
other breeders - after more than 10 years of hard work (also against
negative influences from other impolite "humans") -
what I would like to say is that I always went my own way of breed,
made my own decision .... and made my own experience as well.
What is your most important advice about these colors you'd
like to give?
Please allow me to submit my personal advice for the handling
of every creature we humans are caring the responsibilty for:
Please be kind to your animals, love and respect them, accept
them.... ONLY than you will get back more love, more tenderness
etc. as you have invested.
Is working with these colors for everyone?
Do you have any advice to offer anyone just starting with these
Yes, of course but just the improvement of bi-colors in chocolate
and lilac is a task for life - everybody should consider that:
there are not only successful times of breeds but also back-strokes
- than: don't give it up - together with "your kitties"
you will always find a way out of such a bottom of a valley!!